Ramirez: (Lightly, also laughing.) Yes? How many people?Īséna: So there is five people in my family.Īséna: This is, like, the basic question I learned when I learned English with my teacher. Natalia Ramirez: Okay! Good morning! Um, so are you with a lot of family right now? ( A heavy, low, roiling sound ever so slowly crescendos, up and up, and ends when a brief blip plays.)

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Use the hashtag #TheExperimentPodcast, or write to us at episode was produced by Julia Longoria, with help from Gabrielle Berbey and editing by Katherine Wells and Emily Botein. This episode of The Experiment originally ran on August 19, 2021.įurther reading: “ One by One, My Friends Were Sent to the Camps ,” “ Saving Uighur Culture From Genocide,” “‘ I Never Thought China Could Ever Be This Dark,’” “ China’s Xinjiang Policy: Less About Births, More About Control”īe part of The Experiment. This episode’s guests include Aséna Tahir Izgil and her father, Tahir Hamut Izgil, a Uyghur poet and author. This week on The Experiment, Aséna shares her family’s story of fleeing to the U.S., navigating newfound freedom, and raising her baby brother away from the shadows of a genocide. After narrowly securing refuge in the United States, Aséna’s now tasked with adjusting to life in a new country and fitting in with her teenage peers. She is Uyghur, an ethnic minority persecuted in China, and few of her people have escaped to bear witness. At 19 years old, Aséna Tahir Izgil feels wise beyond her years.

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